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February 2017

Just to say I will not be accepting any of the new £5 and £10 and have emailed the Bank of England following a recent article on the BBC News website.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Animal fat in notes
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:26:47 +0000
From: roger
To: enquiries@bankofengland.co.uk

Dear Sir/Mam

My background is that I have been vegan for 45 years and it is a journey on how to get by without using animals, I will summarise the reason latter. First let me say I have no desire that you withdraw the £5 in topic but am disturbed by the issue and that £10 notes are similarly made. I am primarily writing due to a comment apparently made by 'The Bank'

However, the central bank also emphasised that "an extremely small amount of tallow" was used at an early stage of producing the polymer pellets, which were then used to create the notes. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38980352

The issue is not the small amount, alike that only a few children are molested or a few Jews gassed. It is the principal that animals are dumb and any use of them is thereby abusive, although not legislatively illegal. Clearly to many people such a use of animals is clearly an abuse, to me any exploitation of a creature dumber than me is an abuse, so I do not accept the new £5 and now have to work to avoid the new £10 you seem so keen to circulate.

The quote above can only be made by an arrogant and insensitive person. I hope that someone who reads this understands the issue and will consider making changes to future notes that are deemed to be acceptable to all of the public, not just meat eaters and those scavengers that peck on the bones and offal that remains after the killers have feasted on their prey.

Yours sincerely
Roger Lovejoy

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Comment from: roger Member

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: RE: Animal fat in notes
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:04:08 +0000
From: enquiries@bankofengland.co.uk
To: roger

Dear Mr Lovejoy

Thank you for providing us with your views. The Bank is launching a full consultation on 30 March to seek further opinion on the use of animal–derived products and plant-based alternatives before making any decisions on the polymer used in future production runs of £5 and £10 polymer notes and the new £20 polymer note.

We would welcome your contribution through that consultation. You may also be interested in the additional assessment information that we published on 15 February:

https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/publications/Documents/other/polymerassessment.pdf


Kind regards

Public Enquiries Group
Bank of England

Dear Bank

I am wondering how I may contribute to the consultation or more properly discuss, argumentatively with the issues raised the polymerassessment.pdf

Thank you

Roger Lovejoy

20/02/17 @ 00:37

Comment from: roger Member

Bank is considering palm oil for £20 note and has produced a report on the environmental impact of tallow, coconut and palm oil

Questions are
1. Why is the saturated fat necessary
2. How much did the tallow cost and what is the preliminary cost of palm and coconut,
3. As the polymer is petrol chemical why not use a petrol chemical oil, and is there a cost issue.

30/03/17 @ 10:36

Comment from: roger Member

What is tallow?

Tallow is a hard, fatty substance made from rendered animal fat. It is commonly used to make soap and candle.

The new polymer note uses beef tallow made from suet, which is hard fat found around the animal’s kidneys, stomach and other organs.

. . . Tallow can be found in a variety of everyday products including: plastic bags, make up (including lipstick, foundations and eye makeup), crayons, bike tyres, candles

. . . This allows the note to be lubricated and to ensure it is smooth inside your wallet. Innovia, the company that makes the new £5, said that the additive was used to five the £5 their “unique” anti-static and anti=slip properties. The amount of tallow used is substantially less than 1 per cent, The Independent reported.
thesun.co.uk . . ./tallow . . . five-5-pound-notes/

24/04/17 @ 18:51

Comment from: roger Member

The future composition of polymer banknotes — a consultation paper
27 March 2017
How to respond to this consultation
Responses should be submitted using the online form available at
www.bankofengland.co.uk/polymeradditivesconsultation.
This consultation will close at 23:00 BST on
12 May 2017.

24/06/17 @ 21:03

Comment from: roger Member

Hi

I never got around to adding to the consultation largely due to the depth of my troubles with the issue.

I am hoping that in future you will find alternatives and, in the cases of the £5 and £10 notes already produced, any updated versions that are animal product free will have different images so they can be easily identifiable.

I have already stopped accepting the new £5 notes, will not use the £10 notes when around. In fact I am so disgusted with the idea that all persons handling such notes now will have animal tainted hands by passing the fat around.

I suppose if the Bank of England cares so little, what am I thinking, the bank is not interested in abuse just in making money. So really I should give up using hard currency that passes through the hands of butchers' friends.

Funny as I always hated plastic cards and liked hard cash, but change does happen although it is harder to handle when there is little choice.

Transactions without cash seem to be the only option if even the Bank of England have no qualms about forcing the fat of dead animals into consumer hands.

All the best, hope this new venture into the fat of the land is worth the mint.

Roger Lovejoy

22/07/17 @ 22:17

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